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Nov 30, 2012 7:00am PST
. >> and the speaker tweeted, "how serious is the white house about avoiding the fiscal cliff?" reports suggest, in some cases, not so serious. and also, joanne, what is the strategy here, and is there a risk like looking like you're not really negotiating? >> well, you know, i think what's interesting is that there's the posture that everyone is taking in public, but then what you're hearing behind the scenes is that everyone's sort of understands what the contours of the deal are going to look like. and what i see is john boehner trying to sort of protect his caucus at this point because he probably understands that at the end of the day, that top rate is going to go up. and republicans are in a really awkward position because right now essentially they're just defending the tax cut for the top 2%. at the same time, the white house's public posture is to say well, no, we don't want to go over the fiscal cliff because you don't want to send that message to the markets. but then behind the scenes you sort of get the feeling they'd be willing to do it and they'd be okay at least temporarily havi
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 10:00am PST
. that's the amount that would increase if, in fact, the country does go over the fiscal cliff. the white house points out that they have actually gotten more hits on that #my2k than they got during the payroll tax cut fight when they launched a similar effort. so they feel as though this is a good way to put the pressure on congress. but having said all of that, andrea, this really remains in a deadlock. house speaker john boehner saying the situation is in a stalemate today. >> and luke russert, you covered the hill. you have a feel for what eric cantor and kevin mccarthy and the speaker is saying. is this just shadow boxing between the two sides of pennsylvania avenue or is this a serious stalemate with only ten legislative gas dais to go. >> we knew november would be for saber rattling and december would be where the deal would be put together. this is more significant than just your typical squirmish, shall we say, between both sides. john boehner saying, quote, right now we're almost nowhere. republicans were very much offended that timothy geithner brought to them a deal some of th
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 9:00am PST
of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned from food s
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 6:00am PST
-style event to sort of drum up support for what the white house wants to do on fiscal cliff. you know, the president after he won re-election essentially said i know lots of you didn't vote for me. i've listened to you. i take your concerns to heart and we're going to move forward. does that apply to congressional republicans, kristen? does he hear what john boehner has to say? does he internalize it? do we hear something acknowledging republican resistance to what he laid out today in pennsylvania or not? >> reporter: well, i think he certainly is hearing and listening to john boehner, but he also believes that he has the upper hand having just won re-election and this trip to pennsylvania today is sort of a larger pr campaign that the president and the white house have been embarking on to get voters, to pressure congressional republicans to get onboard with the president's plan of increasing taxes on wealthier americans. he's traveling to pennsylvania today. he has had had business leaders here at the white house, also leaders of the progressive movement to sort of build support fo
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 8:00am PST
a fiscal cliff. >> there is a framework that we presented to the white house two weeks ago. the framework has been agreed to in terms of really a down payment on the end of this year. that would include spending cuts and it would include revenue. setting up a process for entitlement reform next year and tax reform next year. but this is way out of balance. and not recognition on the part of the white house about the serious spending problem that we have. >> based on the procespect of going over the fiscal cliff which you just called serious business or extending the lower tax rates and not the upper ones, which one would you choose? >> i'm going to do everything i can to avoid putting the american economy, the american people through the fiasco of going over the fiscal cliff. >> which is worse, though, for the economy? >> -- the balance that you talked about, could you include the debt limit increase in the overall package? >> as i told the president a couple weeks ago, there are a lot of things i've wanted in my life, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. and if we're
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 2:30am PST
proposed in a fiscal cliff deal which the white house quickly rejected because it does not raise taxes on the wealthy but aims to get the money through cuts in deductions. senator jim demint denounced boehner's plan as a tax hike that will, quote, destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the gop still hot on its desire to raise money through cuts and deductions rather than an actual increase in the top end tax rate? well, i think it's likely because the most ductions in states happen to be the higher blue states. in other words, the gop wants the states that largely reelecte
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 4:00am PST
will be launched over the fiscal cliff if congress and the white house can't agree on a resolution. president obama and house speaker boehner took the fight to the podiums. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. that -- that doesn't make sense. >> it's not a serious proposal. and so, right now, we're almost nowhere. >> joining me now is nancy cook, budget and tax correspondent for national journal. welcome back, nice to see you. >> you, too. >> let's take a look at white house propose. $1.6 trillion in tax increases, $400 billion in savings. is that how this $1.6 trillion is going to be reached? >> the way the $1.6 trillion will be reached is primarily through the expiration of the bush-era tax cuts for the top 2% of taxpayers. then there would be some other increases in taxes on investment income, again for people above people making more than $250,000, and also some capping of deductions. so there's a, you know,
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm PST
questions about the fiscal cliff on twitter, and with less than a month to go, the white house dispatched treasury secretary tim geithner to five sunday talk shows to declare tax rates on the wealthy are going up one way or another. >> if the republicans say, sorry, no way are we going to raise rates on the wealthy. you guys are willing to go off the fiscal cliff? >> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is rol
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 2:30am PST
a year end deadline, the white house is wasting no time rejecting the republicans' fiscal cliff counter offer on tax reforms and spending cuts. the gop plan consists of $2.2 trillion in saving officials a decade including raging the age for medicare from 65 to 67 and lowering the cost of living increases for social security benefits. they also propose overhauling the tax code to generate $800 billion in new revenue but without raising taxes on the wealthy. frn in a letter to the president, republicans attempted to sell the offer as the erskine bowles plan, comparing it to the same offer he drew up last year. >> i think he'd disagree. >> the co-chair of obama's deficit commission, but yesterday mr. bowles flatly rejected that connection. meanwhile, the white house is turning to campaign style messaging as a reminder of whose tax plan was chosen in the court of public opinion on election day. >> under my plan, first of all, 98% of folks who make less than 250,000, you wouldn't see your income taxes go up a single dime. all right? because you're the ones who need relief. but we're not goin
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 10:00am PST
full-fledged fiscal cliff. >> chris cizilla, what about bringing up the debt ceiling as they did in this opening bid for the white house. they say that this has to be part of any agreement. the president does not want to face this couple of weeks down the road in january. >> and understandably so, andrea, but i -- i guess you never say never, and so let's put it there. i can't imagine that republicans would give on this -- this is something that has always been done by congress. push back and say something always done by congress and until the last few years was never controversial in the least and looks like it will be controversial certainly the next debt limit in late february, early march. i can't imagine, it seems like a bridge too far. it seems like you put it out there, and use it knowing you're not going to get it, use it as one of the concessions you're willing to give to get to a deal. i'm with chuck. i still remain somewhat optimistic, but i do think there is -- you can make a political argument that going over the fiscal cliff, may be in democrats' best political inte
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 10:00pm PST
surprised to see in the white house opening bid, the fiscal cliff, which we like to call the austerity crisis because it is just too much austerity, it centers around the reduction and there is too much deficit reduction. the white house add lot of stimulus which folks like your group and you in particular have been calling for for some time. were you surprised to see it in there. >> i was surprised to see as much as i did, and i was happy to see it in there. you are right. if you think about -- remember the economy. >> i've heard of the economy, yes. >> the unemployment rate is still way too elevated. 7.9%. gdp got a pop but most of us agree it is growing well too slowly. this is our biggest near term problem. our biggest near term problem is not the budget deficit. that is a long-term problem, a serious problems, we have a chance to do something about it. . if we can at the same time, help the 2013 economy by giving it a bit of a boost, that means a lot to workers, their paychecks, job availability. i'm very happy to see that was in there. >> when you look at the white house's propos
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 11:00am PST
the american people about the fiscal cliff. it's part of the white house push to build support. the president has answered a few questions so far. let's get backe to kristen welker. she's monitoring the exchanges. what have we learned, kristen? >> reporter: good afternoon. most exchanges have to do with questions concerning increasing taxes on wealthier americans as well as cuts to sbimgentitlemen. one exchange caught our attention. this is from mandy. as a recent college grad bout wout a full time job these cuts wouldn't help me, would they? the president responds kitts without revenue equal reductions in student loans, work study and college tax credits expire. bad for growth. the president says like your hair. she has purple hair, tamron. a lot of questions pouring in. as you know when you look at the polls about 60% of americans agree with president obama's plan to increase taxes on those making $250,000 or more. if you look at questions coming in, there's still concerns about those ideas, so the president answering those this afternoon. this is really like a twitter town hall. he used a
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 8:00am PST
to be at an icy impasse over the so-called fiscal cliff. this is hours after the white house rejected the counteroffer. >> while their proposal may be serious, it's also a nonstarter. they know any agreement that raise tax on the middle class in order to protect more unnecessary giveaways, the top 2% s. doomed from the start. it won't pass. democrats won't agree to it. president obama wouldn't sign such a bill and the american people won't support it. >> you don't get people together until they finally sit down at the table and negotiate. it's still too much posturing, still too much the president wants his way, somebody else wants it that way. >> the gop's opening bid includes $2.2 trillion in tax reform, entitlement reform. but here's the problem, it includes no tax hike for the top 2% that republicans must have and something that the president repeated on the campaign trail. >> the obstacle here continues to be republicans who hold out hope that we can somehow go through this process and still deliver tax cuts to millionaire and billionaires. and that's just not going to h
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 7:00pm PST
's proposals and negotiations, they are not going well, at all. and the fiscal cliff negotiations are not going well at all. on thursday republicans leaked the white house's opening bid and we have some exclusive tape of that. >> all right. somebody will have to play a little game. we'll play yours. so let's just say that you paid me because it is in your interest to pay me. but i want your answer and the money by noon tomorrow. >> senator, you can have my answer now, if you like. my offer is this -- nothing. >> okay. maybe that's not actually exclusive tape of the budget negotiations, but it is kind of the spirit of the thing. president obama's opening bid to the republicans goes like this. first democrats get a trillion dollars in tax revenue by letting the high-income bush tax expire. that hatch matches the spending cuts in the 2011 debt ceiling deal. a trillion for a trillion. then dem krts and republicans get 6 billion worth of stuff they want. democrats get 6 billion from tax reform and republicans get 600 billion in spending cuts of which 350 mill billon comes from medicare and other hea
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00am PST
in tax increases to head off the fiscal cliff, a move that didn't impress the white house even as it spawned a rebellion on the right." so are republicans going to have to give on raising rates? >> no. we're not, because where the president is focused in on is the affordable care act taxes they increase january the 1st on people making $200,000 or more. the president wants a rate increase coming in january on people making $200,000 or more and go into next year's negotiations on reforming the tax code and he's looking at a single year time period to have three tax increases on the same group of folks, we're saying that's dramatic on the economy, that will slow down development of our economy in a time we're looking to increase more jobs, why would we do this? how does this stimulate the economy and how does it solve the debt? the president's proposal is $160 billion of new taxes a year on a $1 trillion problem. we've got to get to the spending side. >> let me play for you what the president said about this. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of bala
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 8:00am PST
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MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 2:00am PST
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 7:00am PST
the fiscal cliff? >> it comes to the white coats, the doctors. that's one thing to watch here. because the doctors, the money they get from medicare, that could go down almost 30%. the result, fitch says medicare recipients would have even lower access to doctors, hospitals, and the industry overall would also see a severe negative effect as money coming into the industry, that goes down. this is the number of medicare recipients they expect to thk by some 20 million in the next decade. >> and we heard from chris van hollen, he is against raising the age of eligibility. so lots still to be decided. but thanks for helping us with that. that will wrap up this hour of jansing and company. thomas roberts is up next. >>> good morning, everybody. the agenda next hour, mitt on the menu. mr. romney goes to washington for lunch. can president obama and mitt romney bury the hatchet for the good of the country? we'll head to the white house for a live report on the president's lunch date with his former presidential rival. plus president obama deploys his top man at the treasury to capitol hill f
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 2:30am PST
's top republican laughing out loud at the white house proposal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. this morning, president obama departs to pennsylvania where he will continue his campaign sales pitch on how to solve the country's fiscal challenges. yesterday treasury secretary tim geithner met with republicans to unveil the white house's budget proposal which includes $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. with limited details on spending cuts, the gop's reaction, less than encouraging. senator mitch mcconnell reportedly burst into laughter while geithner
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 10:00am PST
obama, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people on both sides of the aisle but when you have howard dean, the former chairman of the democratic national committee, you have patty murray, who ran the democratic senatorial committee encouraging going over the cliff i think it's irresponsible. i think we ought to have the president sitting down with john boehner, finding solutions that can, one, pass the house, and, two, be signed by the president, and i believe if you find that solution, it will pass the senate. >> senator john barrasso, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next on "andrea mitchell reports" -- as the house heads home, are dem
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 2:30am PST
stories in the mix at the moment. the big story is still and will remain the fiscal cliff. every time a policymaker on capitol hill or in the white house makes a speech about this or a station to the media, the markets move very aggressively. yes, there is a case in point where boehner and obama said there was progress that could be made towards a compromise. the markets turn around to 220 points on the dow. but on 20 points and the dow having been down 110 closed up 106 points. that's because john boehner said they could well be some progress on a compromise. that flies in the face of harry reid saying little progress is made. that is what is driving the u.s. markets and the global markets as well. the fed's beige book says there is a tepid growth. you have the housing market against that manufacturing and superstorm sandy. interesting stats expected out of the auto sectors. this could be good news. we think there may ab a pace of somewhere in the region of 15.2 million cars sold in november. the fact is that americans got very old fleet of cars. the average age of car now is 11 year
MSNBC
Dec 2, 2012 9:00am PST
that the blame, if they go over the fiscal cliff, the blame would rest on congressional republicans. so the white house and democrats believe they are holding more cards in this debate. >> you talk about the blame on republicans. but i just spoke with former chair of the dnc who said he thinks we should go over the fiscal cliff and we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> he's the first person i have heard say that it in public that he thinks we should go over the fiscal cliff. everyone i talked to in washington wants to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. and most importantly, they don't want to get the blame for it. that's why republicans will probably be motivate d to negotiate with the white house. it might be christmas eve, but in the end, that's what's going to bring them to the table. >> he said after a week or two, there would be the negotiations. he said instead of a cliff, it was like a curb. david, if americans, though, are going to blame the gop more so than the president, how much leverage does that give the president as negotiations are underway? >> i think it gives him substantial lever
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 7:00pm PST
a cliff. >> the political theater over the fiscal cliff. >> mr. obama sends his chief negotiator. >> treasury secretary tim geithner. >> who was on capitol hill right now. >> reaching out to capitol hill. >> the push is on to get a deal. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> literally no progress. >> bad news, bad news, bad news. >> this is the moment of posturi posturing. >> a lot of posturing. >> until we hear good news. >> the framework of the deal is beginning to emerge. >> i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. >> we have a debt crisis. >> i'll do anywhere and do whatever it takes. >> all eyes on the white house. >> they're going to get right up to cliff on new year's eve. we're all going to be hugging cliff. >> it's like when a fish show starts. the crowd -- >> i hope nobody catches that reference. >> all eyes on the white house. >> together again. >> what's his name? >> table for two. >> don't help me, don't help me. >> mr. romney goes to washington. >> mitt romney makes his way to the white house. >> the political power lunch of 2012. >> it's not
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 7:00am PST
the deadline for the so-calleded fiscal cliff. the drama is building. check out what house speaker, john boehner, had to say this week. >> the white house spends three weeks of trying to develop a proposal that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little, not even $400 billion in cuts and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they are willing to cut. it was not a serious proposal. right now, we are almost nowhere. >> oh, mr. boehner, you have got it all wrong. it is a serious proposal, really serious. godfather serious. >>> watching the d.c. drama convinced those of us in nerdland that president obama must be a fan of the francis ford copel la masterpiece. remove the lethal components and there are valuable negotiating lessons that the president seems to be picking up on, like this one. >> my father taught me many things here. he taught me in this room. he caught me keep your friends close but your enemies closer. >> well, president obama keeping his opponents close in hand. lunch with mitt romney. a mid-week summit with the business l
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 9:00am PST
with the president at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff and other issues affecting their states before coming to the mikes to address their concerns. >> i think we all recognize that there's an impact on our states, certainly, by what happens here. >> we want to be a part of the solution to the problems facing our nation. >> we also are saying that states are willing to do our part. we understand it's going to be a shared sacrifice as you have to look at spending cuts. states are willing to do more with less. >> while the national dialog is focused on the fiscal cliff which has the potential to significantly affect state budgets many governors are also tackling the implementation of obama care. starting in 2014 medicaid will be expanded to all americans within 138% of the poverty line, which is individuals making $15,000 a year or less, give health care to as many as 21 million additional americans. eight governors including one of those at the white house today, oklahoma republican governor mary fallin are rejecting the offer, concerned their states may have to foot the bill down the
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 6:00am PST
with the white house to avoid a fiscal cliff. cnbc's becky quick is here. what has more impact? the weekly jobless claims which have some sandy issues involved or the fiscal cliff talks? >> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead story -- one of the top stories on the front page of the "wall street journal" suggesting the president is flexible on the tax hikes, that sounds like a deal might get done. you see a gain of 50 or 60 points. gdp up 2.7% from 2%. there was concerning things when you dig into the numbers, it's all fiscal cliff all the time here, chuck. >> oh, hopefully, as you guys say, it will all -- people will rise above, right, becky? >> th
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 12:00pm PST
correspondent mike viqueira. what can you make of this? fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in preliminary stages here, which is the good news, considering they are far apart. number two, the white house clearly feels it has the upper hand. it came with the $1.6 billion in new revenues and that's twice what the president was talking about before the election. republicans, obviously, rejecting it out of hand. we all heard by now republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell laughed at it. there you see some of the provisions there. $600 billion in savings. some of it from medicare, another 50 billion in spending and new spending on infrastructure and stimulus spending. that's something that republicans aren't going to want to go to. the two sides are far apart. here we are on december 1st, the clock is tic
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 8:00am PST
the looming fiscal cliff becomes a raw reality, will the president and house gop find a way over the latest road black and back to the bargaining table? >> why did the white house decide to have this as their opening volley when they knew the response would be a negative one that they drew? >> was it hardball opening? yeah, of course it was. the question is, what's the counteroffer? >> i would imagine there has to -- tim geithner is too smart of a guy in this administration is filled with smart people. they must have a serious strategic plan. >> let's get straight into this and joining me now is senator barbara boxer, democrat from california. senator, it is great to have you with me this morning. >> thank you. >> just for everybody that's watching, i want to break down what the proposal is from the president that was offered yesterday. $1.6 trillion in tax cuts. $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. $50 billion additional in stimulus spending. no real structural reform to entitlement programs. no spending cuts. instead, stimulus spending. obviously, the president
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 2:00am PST
are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> good morning. i'm mika brzezinski along here with joe scarborough, and this is "way too early." it's just "way too
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> speaker boehner said the president needs to get serious about what spending cuts he's willing to make. but that was news to senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him, okay? >> he's not alone. all this comes as treasury secretary tim geithner held separate meetings today with boehner, reid, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell, and over at the white house spokesman jay carney said the debt ceiling should not be a pawn in any kind of fiscal gamesmanship. >> asking for a -- that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible.
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 9:00am PST
could be the fiscal cliff. >>> treasury secretary timothy geithner tried to find common ground on the hill during meetings with both sides. >> revenue is on the table but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. >> this is very similar to what happened on the payroll tax holiday. you recall the president was calling for it, the senate voted for it house democrats want it republicans isolated themselves and painted themselves into the corner and they had to come around. i think they'll come around. >> plus, benghazi round three. we'llal
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 11:00am PST
cliff and 14 days until the house is scheduled to go to recess and leaders on the hill and in the white house are using words like stalemate, impas, radical and scrooge. we'll go behind the silly terms of the debate and also take you through all the sticking points holding back that will do one-by-one over the next three hours. we start today with the very latest move by democratic leader nancy pelosi who is threatening a power play move to force a vote on extending middle class tax cuts. this morning, president obama also pushed away republican senator orrin hatch called his proposal, radical. >> it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the we weltmist americans. >> what he proposed this week is a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase doubled the size of what he campaigned on. >> joining me now nbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. mike, let's talk about this thing. this is the time the lawmakers are breaking out the rule book to find some tricks. ho
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Nov 29, 2012 11:00am PST
, of course, what is a very critical time. the deadline for the fiscal cliff is drawing near. you have to imagine that that was a large part of romney's discussions today both with president obama and with ryan. >> kristen welker at the white house, thanks so much. >>> we take you back on capitol hill where congressional leaders put much of their energy on the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. oklahoma representative tom cole who broke ranks with republicans by embracing president obama's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy stuck to his guns this morning. >> if we can give the american people an early christmas present, if they can listen to the debate instead of be worried that their own taxes are going to go up, i think that actually strengthens our hand. i haven't changed my mind. i'm not going to come out here and be disingenuous to people. i think it would be a step in the right direction. >> today john boehner expressed disappointment at where the negotiations stand. as our first read team points out, by siding with the white house tom cole may be helping boehner get the deal he
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Dec 6, 2012 7:00am PST
secretary tim geithner went on cnbc and said the white house is ready to go off the cliff. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. it's only 2%. >> i want to bring in "usa today" bureau chief and welcome to both of you. where are we in these negotiations, susan? >> i think the most encouraging thing was they agreed to the to characterize the phone call. the last time around the characterization of the phone call became a controversy in itself. i think it's pretty clear that the white house and republicans think the white house hand on this is strengthening. we see the polls that you mention, pew polls this week say americans trust the president more, assume if a deal is not reached -- trust the white house more, think if a deal isn't reached it, will be the fault of republicans and it is in fact easier for democrats to go over the fiscal cliff than it is for republicans because then all those tax cuts from
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Nov 30, 2012 3:00am PST
over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> we can debate at length whether the november 6th election was a mandate, but i don't think we can debate the basics that it was a work order, a work order from the american people to members of congress and to the president, roll up your sleeves, work together and solve the problems. we got the message. did speaker boehner get the message? because the message was work together. what we hear from him is all of his pain and frustration and angst dealing with the tea party in his own caucus. well, there comes a point when he needs to look beyond his caucus to the house and to the nation. >> all right. welcome back to "morning joe." >> i guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. it's depressing, you're right, harold, we've seen this movie before. this was a year ago. this happened a year ago. and i know the media says oh, it's the republicans' fault any time the house doesn't co
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Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm PST
'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal whatever it is. >> is this a rerun? >> still no progress as all sides jockey for position. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> speaker john boehner issued a downer offer yesterday. >> the white house quickly dismissed it. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> it is more of the same. >> it is not me being positive. it is the math. >> magic math. >> magic beans and fairy dust. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that far apart? >> both sides want a deal. >> a matter of math. >> try to stay away from hypotheticals. >> it won't pass. >> discussions about unicorns. >> unicorns. >> they're imaginary beasts. >> magic beans. >> magic math. >> an enchanted universe. >> outrageous. >> the whole thing is going wacky. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> i don't envy the position the speaker is in. >> we're nowhere. ? you just m
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Dec 6, 2012 2:00pm PST
proves it. 53% trust president obama and the dgets more to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in congress. joining me is nbc chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," anything else you control around here? >> that's enough. >> and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i think you've been reupped. year all over the place. you're the greatest. the absolute best there is in this -- >> let's be careful talking about the president outside the beltway. >> this is why i want you and chris on. what is the president hoping to get done? what's his time frame? does he believe in the cliff or does he think it's a bungee jump? >> no, he truly believes in the cliff. he has been getting -- and he's getting economic warnings from his own team that say, don't believe the congressional budget office which is kind of rosy about this who says it would be a tough 2013 if we went over the cliff but things would get better. he is getting updates saying, no, no, no we will go into recession. >> therefore, let's go to the therefore now, c
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Nov 29, 2012 5:00pm PST
secretary tim geithner who offered republicans a detailed plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. it included $1.6 trillion in new revenue from tax hikes on the rich. the white house is giving $400 billion in savings from medicare and entitlements. there's also a request for at least $50 billion in infrastructure spending, mortgage relief, and other stimulus measures. none of this is a surprise to the republicans. this is what president obama campaigned on. it's also what republicans have been presented behind closed doors for weeks. "politico" reported on the deal taking shape behind the scenes. it includes most of the same details the white house has in its proposal. according to "politico" house republican leaders recognize president obama holds the high cards and the public is likely to blame republicans if negotiations blow up and the new year begins with a fiscal disaster. the facts didn't stop speaker boehner from claiming the white house is holding up negotiations. >> majority leader and i just had a meeting with the treasury secretary. it was frank, and it was direct. i was hopeful we'd
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Dec 4, 2012 6:00am PST
hear. the fiscal cliff counteroffer has one thing in common. the differences between the new republican plan and what the white house proposed are stark when it comes to taxes. the gop calls for $800 million in new taxes. it's half of what the white house asked for. republicans to $67 billion. the gop plan changes how security benefits would be calculated. why he favors tax rates instead of eliminating deductions. not enough revenue. less revenue equals more cuts in education. republicans ruled that out saying the new revenue would not be achieved through higher tax rates which we continue to oppose. they were referring to an erskine bowles plan that he testified to in the fall of 2011. the white house made it clear that's a nonstarter and they won't even respond until the gop puts forth a plan that includes a tax rate hike. the obstacle continues to be republicans who hold out hope. millionaires and billionaires. while it sounds like the two sides are far apart, the budget numbers are not that far apart. the white house you get close. they say it lacks detail. doon pfeiffer says it doe
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Dec 6, 2012 3:00am PST
yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business roundtable of ceos, president obama took a hard line, warning his opponents not to consider this strategy. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to dell creting votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part
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Dec 1, 2012 9:00am PST
on the fiscal cliff with the deadline at the end of the month republicans are calling the white house's new proposal unrealistic, while president obama takes it on the road to rally support. joining me now isdom senator ben card enmember of the budget and finance committees. senator thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> let's talk take a look at probe's proposal. a $50 billion stimulus package. some have characterized this as a democrats' wish list. can you put into perspective how realistic this is? >> i think it is a realistic next step. remember we've already done close to $1 trillion in deficit reduction during the debt ceiling agreement. so we've gotten $1 trillion of discretionary domestic spending savings. it's time now to move on the revenues. quite frankly, i think the easiest next step, i would hope this could happen as early as this week, is to pass the continuation of the lower tax rates for those under $250,000 of taxable income. get that done. everyone agrees on it. it helps the holiday season. it gives confidence. we know we have to get beyond that. we know we also hav
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Dec 3, 2012 12:00pm PST
. we talked about being in a stalemate recently in terms of the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and along with the rest of the leadership has presented an offer to the white house in a letter sent today based off something boles said to the supercommittee last year. you see the offer on the screen. 800 billion through tax reform, 600 billion in health savings, 300 billion in mandatory savings, 300 billion further discretionary savings. it nets to a total of $2.2 trillion in savings. what does it mean? in the letter we know the sticking point is the tax rates. the speaker says, quote, notably the new revenue in the boles plan would not be achieved through higher tax rates, which we continue to oppose and will not agree in order to protect small businesses and our economy. instead new revenue would be generated through pro-growth tax reforms that closes special interest loopholes and deductions while lowering rates. you see in this latest proposal while they offer up pour savings by saying, look, we can tax the rich people through the $800 billion figure. we can find more
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Dec 6, 2012 6:00am PST
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Nov 28, 2012 8:00pm PST
priority should be jobs and growth instead of cutting spending. let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. ♪ now, that's cardworthy. [ man ] all right. here we go. ♪ cardworthy. [ camera shutter clicks ] cardworthy. ♪ so not cardworthy. ♪ [ female announcer ] go to shutterfly.com for all your cardworthy moments and now get up to 40% off. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's plan with this clip from the town. >> i need your help. i can't tell you what it is. you can never ask me about it later. we are going to hurt some people. >> whose car are we going
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